tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post5533429011857073572..comments2023-10-20T04:34:12.958-04:00Comments on Do I Amuse You?: Ortho Home Defense Against Mice Is OverkillMikehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13360530423646515256noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-63011458917598747172019-11-07T14:29:37.568-05:002019-11-07T14:29:37.568-05:00Sorry, I poisoned mine and laughed when I tossed i...Sorry, I poisoned mine and laughed when I tossed it in the garbage. (It was a rat not a mouse). So far I have had to replace an upholstery chair , pay an exterminator several hundred dollars,pay a plumber to fix where it chewed a hole in the water line. Vapor barrier needed to be replaced,it went into the dishwasher and chewed electric wires which may may not be able to be fixed.<br />.this is just ONE day overa five day period. Still finding problems.<br />How humane. should I be???<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />s one day in a five day period. And it is not overAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-90032488738012666632015-09-14T20:22:45.145-04:002015-09-14T20:22:45.145-04:00BeHumane - I'm so sorry for not responding. Th...BeHumane - I'm so sorry for not responding. This blog has been on the shelf as I work on other writing projects. I believe the Ortho Kill trap is simply a glue trap (no squash) that keeps the mouse inside until it dies so one doesn't have to see it as it suffers and dies. It might have some poison too.<br />Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13360530423646515256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-5169112873905564202015-04-20T06:28:11.638-04:002015-04-20T06:28:11.638-04:00I've followed this blog with interest from the...I've followed this blog with interest from the UK. I agree that throwing away a trap containing an animal, without checking first that it is properly dead, is totally unacceptable. I'm interested to know what the mechanism is inside these traps but cannot buy them here to make my own investigation - has anyone tried cutting one open? If it was an electronic trap as someone suggested it would require batteries. I suspect some sort of squashing mechanism?BeHumanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-6563732936210275732013-03-16T20:18:11.223-04:002013-03-16T20:18:11.223-04:00#1: I'm pretty certain that it's not "...#1: I'm pretty certain that it's not "Max Kill" It's:<br />Ortho Home Defense MAX<br />Kill & Contain Mouse Trap<br /><br />"MAX" is used to show that the current formula they are using is the strongest that they have available, not maximal killing.<br /><br />#2: I love animals too, but they can't stay in my home and I shouldn't have to spend a bunch of money for some specialized trap, then waste gas driving miles out to set a mouse free. As far as I am concerned those animals (and bugs) should learn that humans are bad for them and stay away from our houses so we won't have this issue. How do we do this? Feeding them and letting them go free in a plush meadow after they break into our homes? No. Kill pests or discourage them from coming anywhere near my home, by spraying some heavy duty pesticide.<br /><br />As far as the commercial? I like it. I've never had a mouse (probably because I have a great hunting cat), but if I ever saw one in my home, I'd prefer it be dead before it found a mate, had babies and infested my home.<br /><br />Yea mice are cute, but you wouldn't be signing the same tune if it were a big sewer rat wandering around your home looking for "food and warmth." Bull... they should all be dead.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-67635599739726834822012-08-30T18:06:58.875-04:002012-08-30T18:06:58.875-04:00Anonymous- I shared my opinion on my blog. Not exa...Anonymous- I shared my opinion on my blog. Not exactly forcing this on anyone.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13360530423646515256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-59945589866830832772012-08-30T17:27:33.062-04:002012-08-30T17:27:33.062-04:00The Ortho trap is the best invention in pest contr...The Ortho trap is the best invention in pest control ever! I am deathly afraid of mice and it very quickly and effectively gets rid of them without mess of any kind. <br /><br />I frankly do not have the time or the desire to have vermin running through my home until they find their way out. If you live in an apartment building, it is completely irresponsible to knowing allow mice to exist as infestation can happen quickly. Not cool forcing your point of view on others who may not think they are cute at all.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-81896787861134483652012-06-05T17:36:09.629-04:002012-06-05T17:36:09.629-04:00Yay! Good for you. Havahart is a great company. I&...Yay! Good for you. Havahart is a great company. I've actually taken the mice people catch in their attics and kept them as pets. Six, so far, and they're extremely cute and sweet. Never had an issue with disease, fleas, mites, etc. though they do live 5+ years. Anyway, I wanted to add, for those not able to order the live traps, that Walmart sells something called a mouse cube. It's a see through live trap that costs about $1 and can be used over and over. There's also something called a bug gun (for people like me who won't kill insects either) and you can get it on amazon for $15. It vacuums them into a sealed holding container and you just turn it open, when outside, to release the little guys. Again, I'm so happy to see others who take the time to treat critters with respect. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-42251002036801258072012-01-17T10:30:43.954-05:002012-01-17T10:30:43.954-05:00Anonymous - Both really excellent points!Anonymous - Both really excellent points!Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13360530423646515256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-13166320609352870392012-01-15T23:15:11.576-05:002012-01-15T23:15:11.576-05:00The Ortho mouse trap doesn't actually kill the...The Ortho mouse trap doesn't actually kill the mouse. I just let one free in a field a block away because it was sitting in the trap doing it's best Monty Python impression "I'm not dead, I feel happy". The worst part is not the callousness of the trap but that it's marketed as a quick death for the mouse. Instead the mouse is either left to die slowly or surprise unsuspecting buyers.<br /><br />To the comments about being humane to mice trying to live in a human dominated world, I would argue that a cockroach is trying the same, so is it just the cuteness of the mouse that justifies humane treatment or would you do the same for the cockroach?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-2476251833460798952010-11-19T13:45:17.326-05:002010-11-19T13:45:17.326-05:00Otherlyn - thanks for sharing such a lovely story....Otherlyn - thanks for sharing such a lovely story.<br /><br />Bettina - Thanks for the comment. Glad you enjoyed it!<br /><br />Anonymous (10/31) - My kids are grown. I experience this while sharing a townhouse with two friends. I also drove miles away and knew if I let it out in the backyard, he'd be back the next day. If someone has real infestation problems, of course you must do what's necessary to protect everyone's health. I just recommended one alternative.<br /><br />Anonymous (11/19) - I'm glad you stumbled upon the post. I agree - first instinct shouldn't have to be kill the suckers.<br /><br />I'm truly amazed a year later this post is still getting so many hits and comments. But Ortho is running its commercial again - I don't criticize anyone for having to deal with mice/rats in whatever way they're most comfortable. I thought the TV commercial itself was a little over-the-top and wanted to share my story. Feel free to disagree. I certainly don't have all the answers nor speak for anyone else. [I do delete the personal attack type comments, but they're quite rare.] ~MikeMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13360530423646515256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-78312385103341741082010-11-19T10:57:50.669-05:002010-11-19T10:57:50.669-05:00I saw this ad for mouse traps only because there i...I saw this ad for mouse traps only because there is a dead mouse in a trap here at work. It's one of those box things which I'm sure has the awful sticky paper in it...so I just thought I would look for an alternative method. I saw this ad and was also curious about what "did the killing" and could not find anything on the method or what they used. I hate all mouse traps save one...my cats. Even when they have caught them in the house...I would take them away and release outside...did the same for a bat they got ahold of. Needless to say, with several cats in the house I don't have a need for a mouse trap but here at work, people are so heartless and only think "EEK! a mouse...kill it!" so to aleviate that, I thought I would look for an alternative....Orhto isn't it.<br /><br />BTW, I loved reading all your comments and stories, it's nice to know I'm not the only one who thinks mice are cute and feel that killing creatures who are only looking to survive in a human dominated world is just...wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-36603482913608025652010-10-31T17:15:54.743-04:002010-10-31T17:15:54.743-04:00Yeah just like when I caught the burgler in my hou...Yeah just like when I caught the burgler in my house. He was just scared and hungry and needed money!This is not Tom&Jerry! Mice spread disease and droppings through your home!What part of this dont you get?These are your children! Protect them!I cant believe you would endanger your childrens health! OK you trap them and let them go. The next day they're back!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-1777521746337235922010-10-28T10:24:59.691-04:002010-10-28T10:24:59.691-04:00Oh I am so glad I am not the only one finding this...Oh I am so glad I am not the only one finding this add so repulsive!!! Are my kids suppose to think it normal to kill an innocent creature? Seriously? And we wonder why we have bullying problems!!! Killing an innocent mice as if it is nothing is not the norm, at least I am hopping!! Thanks for the funny comment though!! I had a good laugh!!Bettinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12639236914162848868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-67540981454915254722010-10-15T21:25:40.792-04:002010-10-15T21:25:40.792-04:00The Havahart trap is he very best option. It gives...The Havahart trap is he very best option. It gives you the opportunity to do a good thing in this too often cruel and heartless world. We didn't have one, many years ago, but we got a happy ending anyway. Here's what happened:<br /><br />One Christmas eve evening, my 4 year-old son slipped his foot into a slipper and quickly pulled his foot back out with a shriek. He picked up the slipper, and out jumped a little mouse. It just sat the, as if stunned and I quickly grabbed a glass and trapped the little creature. We then transferred him to a large jar and poked air holes in the top. We added some bird seed and a bit of paper towel. He settled right down, had a meal, and made a little nest for himself. The nest morning, our family of four bundled ourselves up and drove to a local nature center that had a barn on its compound. We unscrewed the top of the jar, and set it down near the barn, knowing that the mouse would find its way inside where it would be warm.<br /><br />All the way home, we talked about how happy we were that the little "Chris-Mouse" had found our house. It was an opportunity to teach my children about the Joy of being kind to even the smallest of God's creatures. What separates us from the beasts is our ability to be merciful. We chose Life that Christmas eve. It was JUST A MOUSE, but he became a sweet family memory. It was a very nice way to celebrate the birth of our Savior who not doubt, shared the company of a mouse of two, there in that stable so long ago and far away.Otherlynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09798162970960113488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-25573367780485663082010-10-06T17:06:20.209-04:002010-10-06T17:06:20.209-04:00Well said James!,
"...I also don't agree...Well said James!,<br /><br />"...I also don't agree with the environmental impact of this product. It seems like an awful lot of plastic to use once, and then just throw in a landfill for a thousand years!"<br /><br />You go America! Another product made of plastic to throw in the bin. What were the designers thinking??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-57572376604053752462010-10-03T13:14:25.727-04:002010-10-03T13:14:25.727-04:00Todd, I wrote this post just over one year ago. I&...Todd, I wrote this post just over one year ago. I'm so glad you found it and it helped! Good luck! ~MikeMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13360530423646515256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-47548475622259240862010-10-03T13:08:19.028-04:002010-10-03T13:08:19.028-04:00Great post, Thank you... I was Googling about for ...Great post, Thank you... I was Googling about for this Ortho product and your review convinced me to try the friendlier Havahart route!!Todd HellsKitchenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17834486453292227593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-82176196280725798582010-07-22T10:25:10.207-04:002010-07-22T10:25:10.207-04:00There's a lawsuit about these "Kill and C...There's a lawsuit about these "Kill and Contain" traps. Don't buy them before you read about how they really work!<br /><br /><br />http://www.peta.org/mc/NewsItem.asp?id=14807Sarah J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-24421429596178414102009-11-10T18:18:34.229-05:002009-11-10T18:18:34.229-05:00I appreciate your thoughts, Patrick. I did wonder ...I appreciate your thoughts, Patrick. I did wonder the same thing when I released Mortimer into the wild that night.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13360530423646515256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-11539808662204886982009-11-10T18:15:16.025-05:002009-11-10T18:15:16.025-05:00I just bought and used these new Ortho traps yeste...I just bought and used these new Ortho traps yesterday. We caught two mice within an hour. The problem is that these traps didn't kill, as the name of the product would suggest ("Kill & Contain"). They just trapped the poor things in a tight space and left them there, writhing and clawing, trying to free themselves. This is more of a torture device than a "Home Defense" product. The mice were still very much alive this morning, nearly twelve hours after they were trapped. I discovered this by foolishly opening the trap to see exactly how this supposedly amazing new trap did its job. The prisoner nearly escaped right onto the kitchen floor. I don't think I'll be using this type of trap again for that reason. If I have to kill a mouse, I want it to be quick and painless. I've opted for Victor's electronic trap.<br /><br />That being said, I know it seems like the humane thing to do to use a live trap and release it "into the wild." If you choose to go that route, keep in mind that you're only delaying the inevitable. Mice that live in your home are the kind that only survive as pests in a human dwelling space. So, if you let it go in a remote area, it's either going to die from exposure (depending on climate) or perhaps more violently and painfully by getting eaten by some other creature. I'm not criticizing anybody for trying to be more kind to other living things; just some food for thought.Patrick Dalyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11528377399980888033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-67127668967216425092009-11-09T23:09:47.279-05:002009-11-09T23:09:47.279-05:00Kaos - Glad you liked it! Random stumblings can be...Kaos - Glad you liked it! Random stumblings can be fun! ~MikeMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13360530423646515256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-77985183134455573552009-11-09T20:43:24.962-05:002009-11-09T20:43:24.962-05:00I wanted to thank you for the serious amount of gi...I wanted to thank you for the serious amount of giggling I did while reading this. Much more fun than what I was originally googling (Straight Pearls Ortho(dontist)) however hitting the enter key early gave me ortho which in turn gave me a link to you!<br />thank you!Kaoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06430811304623104025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-21438667839916144852009-11-02T08:30:56.437-05:002009-11-02T08:30:56.437-05:00"Mouse traps set me into hyper-freak."
T..."Mouse traps set me into hyper-freak."<br />Thanks for the smile and bravo for the ethics!Vyolethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10855530529093421313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-22534512735515561262009-11-01T10:34:59.849-05:002009-11-01T10:34:59.849-05:00Dear Anonymous- I know exactly how you feel and I&...Dear Anonymous- I know exactly how you feel and I'm glad my story offered you an alternative! Don't be too hard on yourself and Good luck!<br />~MikeMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13360530423646515256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21521415.post-46205379831737691022009-11-01T08:20:27.231-05:002009-11-01T08:20:27.231-05:00THANK YOU! I found you from googling the words &q...THANK YOU! I found you from googling the words "Mouse Killing Remorse" which is what I have today in spades... as opposed to those idiots at Mouse Killing Central. I felt terrible about poisoning the little creatures who are only trying to find some food and shelter now that winter in coming on... they were making an awful mess this year as opposed to the previous winter's neater mouse housekeepers... but setting the French Revolution trap last night... I knew what was to come... <br /><br />I cried over the one that stumbled across the peanut butter on the trap within minutes of me setting it... this morning there was a second... I wrapped them in plastic and put them in the trash and feel miserable for not giving them a proper burial and I expect everyone I tell this to tomorrow will take great pleasure in my grief... I have a live trap for the damn groundhogs that torment my garden and dogs all summer long... why didn't I think of a live trap for the mousies?<br /><br />I had a little plastic box set up that was supposed to catch them alive a few years ago but they were too smart for it... but you have motivated me to try to find the stupid thing in case I haven't managed to murder them all yet...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com